EP 58 | Navigating Challenges as a Leader with Dr. Deborah Gist

In this inspiring episode, Tracy sits down with Dr. Deborah Gist, former superintendent of Tulsa Public Schools, to explore what it means to lead with purpose, courage, and compassion. Dr. Gist shares the story of how her passion for teaching shaped her career and how transformational leadership demands a steadfast commitment to integrity and change.

From navigating public scrutiny to building trust within a divided community, Dr. Gist opens up about the challenges and triumphs of leading a large school district. She emphasizes the importance of being present, listening deeply, and staying anchored in one’s values—even in the most turbulent times.

As she looks to the future, Dr. Gist reflects on the necessity of self-care in sustaining leadership and her growing focus on mentoring the next generation of leaders. This conversation is a powerful reminder that effective leadership isn’t just about strategy—it’s about how you make people feel.

Key Takeaways:

• Transformational leadership requires courage, vision, and integrity.
• Community trust is earned through transparency and accountability.
• Listening and emotional presence are powerful tools for any leader.
• Self-care is not a luxury—it’s essential for longevity in leadership.
• Leadership is ultimately measured by the positive impact on others.

Guest Bio

Dr. Deborah A. Gist is an executive leader and lifelong learner who is deeply committed to leading transformational change and developing leaders working to improve our world.

She is nationally recognized for her leadership of innovative programs and initiatives designed to serve every learner with a focus on children and communities historically farthest from opportunity. As a public-sector systems leader at the local, state, and federal level, Dr. Gist consistently set bold visions and held a high bar for what is possible when passionate and talented professionals come together with communities to build brighter futures for children.

Currently, she brings her expertise from more than 35 years as an educator, state education leader, and superintendent to her role as Senior Advisor to the President at the University of Tulsa providing focused strategic support for innovative approaches to teaching and learning and developing transformational leaders. She also serves various national organizations as a superintendent in residence, leadership coach, and strategic advisor, applying her expertise to support educational and corporate growth and improvement.

Dr. Gist lives in her beloved hometown of Tulsa, Oklahoma with her family and numerous rescue animals and enjoys spending time planning her next adventure.

Highlights

00:00 Introduction to Dr. Deborah Gist

02:50 Dr. Gist’s Journey in Education

05:31 Transformational Leadership and Change

09:55 Navigating Challenges in Leadership

12:51 Addressing Allegations and Integrity

17:38 The Importance of Community Trust

21:10 Personal Reflections on Leadership

30:46 Future Aspirations and Self-Care

37:40 Lessons Learned in Leadership